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Problems in PvZ

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Awaken
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Awaken Posted: 13/05/2013 2:52
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Hey all,

 

I am Protoss - Gold, and I in my league I play well in PvP and PvT, in those matches I win more then I lose. However, in PvZ I face a lot of problems. I lose more then I win. My main problem in PvZ is that I am too passive in the early stages, and as a result Zerg can have a macro party.

 

I normally go FFE, and I have no problems getting my 2nd base and defence up; however, getting a 3rd is difficult for me; especially if Zerg already has an overlord/zergling at my 3rd, I feel "scared" to expand. Furthermore, I find it difficult how to pressure to deny the 3rd of the zerg.  If I stick on 2 base, I do not have enough gas to support both Colossi and HT/Storm and/or Stargate/Void Ray.  Even if I manage to go 2 base-All in, I basically win one or 2 battles, but since Zerg is then on 3 or 4 bases, they have more resources and larva to remax faster, while I do not and then I lose the game macro wise in the end.

 

I already had a lot of tips, to put pressure more early, and to get my gas earlier to get colossi out faster, but the problem is that I am too passive, giving Zerg too much time and opportunity. I need to me more aggressive, and overcome the idea to "lose units", if I can deny a 3rd of kill some drones.

 

What I hope, if that I can have some games with supervision. If one of you could play me as Zerg (Pref. Gold/Plat), and we have another (pref. Plat/Diamond) player in the same game observing the game from my view only and during the game give me tips/tell me what to do how to pressure the Zerg more early. If I can play 2 or 3 of those game on a night, I could learn a lot from it.

 

Anybody willing to help me with this? I am every day online on the EU server (also on TS) from 20.00-22.00/23.00

 

Thx in advance,

 

Awaken

 

 

Bieflapjes
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Bieflapjes replied on 13/05/2013 9:49
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He Awaken. Poke me ingame and i'll show you a replay with a build who helped me defeat zergs up until plat/diamond league. (most diamond and above counter it so need a new build for that )



theLeopard
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theLeopard replied on 15/05/2013 6:09
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That's why this thread was opened.

https://taw.net/forums/t/8412.aspx

 

I have the same problem vs. zerg as terran. To win vs zerg 1v1 you need solid early-game harass.

Tank usually helps out when he isn't busy but we haven't gotten many training sessions going.

Add me ingame, we run groups of 3 I'm available for harrassment-practice at any time (when i'm online).

experta
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experta replied on 15/05/2013 10:57
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Many of the pro's agree that right now late game zerg is too strong unless you manage to damage them early one, more so as Protoss. I am not sure how things in the lower leagues are but my suggestion for protoss players is if you cant take a 3rd go for two base all ins or outright cheese them. Crappy solution I know but until a next unit balance patch that's your best bet.

Gotham
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Gotham replied on 15/05/2013 21:42
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Day9 has covered this recently:

 

http://day9.tv/d/Day9/day9-daily-577-feasts-clever-pvz-build/

 

and

 

http://day9.tv/d/Day9/day9-daily-585-naniwa-pvz/

 

I found Naniwa's builds to be super helpful. Don't even need to go FFE since I'm not worried about a rush. Zergs have to have their *** together by 10:00 or its over.



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Majoris
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Majoris replied on 29/05/2013 11:07
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Hello there, pls feel free to add me Majoris.314 I was diamond toss in wol now i`m about the same with zerg. I know most difficulties toss has against zerg at this league stage.



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